Achievement Points

[AugustusBot]

At times, I'm sure I come off as an Achievement Whore. But I don't just play any and every game in an attempt to get Achievements. I don't have King Kong, etc... And it's not as if I judge people based on their Achievement scores... (unless they have 80k+... and then I both envy them and pity them.) It's just an ongoing sense of accomplishment.

There are certain games... like Tomb Raider, or Tony Hawk's American Wasteland... that I would rent, enjoy for a time, and not really care if I complete them or not... Or like Kameo, where I'd play through half and not really care if I finish it and save Kameo's family or not... And I know they're not on this sytem, but games like Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9... I got to the point in the game where you can kill extra content / Weapons / etc... just before the last dungeon... and I got bored and quit. A lot of times in games the stories are never grasping, they never give you a feeling of "my god i want to beat this / find out what happens"...

Along come Achievements... a sense of accomplishment; a prize; a reward for your effort. Not a reason to pick up a game, but a reason to not put it down if you were mildly entertained by it.

Complaints:
1. The sense of accomplishment within each individual game is not as great as it once was unless it activates an Achievement. This might be my own problem, but I have a feeling I'm not the only one who suffers from this.
2. Game to game, the achievements are not equal. A game like Oblivion or Viva Pinata, which are both very fun to play, obtains 1000/1000 Achievement points a long time before all of the content in the game has been experienced. Sure, you could continue playing, because the games are indeed fun, but you accomplish nothing by doing so (see 1.). Compare this to every first person shooter, which requires hours upon hours of online play in order to achieve 1000/1000... and there's a very large inconsistency. I have to play a game like Perfect Dark beyond the point of fun in order to get 1000/1000, I have to play Oblivion / Viva Pinata for a fraction of the amount of time fun would be had in order to get 1000/1000.


Hmm.. I felt like I had another complaint... I'm sure I'll remember it eventually.

[Sc0tty2h0tty17]

altho i agree in most aspects of what u are saying

took me 80 hrs of play to get all the achievements in Oblivion.... that isnt really that quick or easy


by the way... any1 with 1000 on Perfect Dark Zero.. let me shake your hand

[trj156]

i was just playing half life 2 on xbox and i ran into this problem. i haven't touched it in about two weeks. i really dont like tough online achievements that i know i'll never get, like 10000 kills in GOW. that achievement and the "climb to the top of the world leaderboard!" in games like graw just piss me off. my favorite sets of achievements (so far) are cod2 and oblivion. cod2 did not require countless hours of multiplayer, only abot 90 billion hours of single player. oblivion is also cool because otherwise,i'd finish the main story and give it back to the guy i borrowed it from. i'm not really an achievement collector either but i certainly love to get them.

[Rossko_UK]

Hmm, interesting discussion.

It's always nice to hear that special noise of when an Achievement is unlocked, and I'll confess I do play games longer than I normally would to try and get an Achievement. Having said that, I have never finished Oblivion, which I know are relatively straight forward to achieve. I just can't be bothered. Same with FPS': I know that if I put enoguh time into the game, I'll get them eventually, but I'm not prepared to do that for the simple fact it's a waste of time for me.

[Voyager2k]

[................] A game like Oblivion or Viva Pinata, which are both very fun to play, obtains 1000/1000 Achievement points a long time before all of the content in the game has been experienced. Sure, you could continue playing, because the games are indeed fun, but you accomplish nothing by doing so (see 1.). Compare this to every first person shooter, which requires hours upon hours of online play in order to achieve 1000/1000... and there's a very large inconsistency. I have to play a game like Perfect Dark beyond the point of fun in order to get 1000/1000, I have to play Oblivion / Viva Pinata for a fraction of the amount of time fun would be had in order to get 1000/1000.

And that is a problem why ?

Let me tell you why ..... because you Sir are putting way too much weight into achievements. We had this argument before and it won't be any diffrent now. You're playing with achievements in mind, the actual goal(s) of a game seem to lose more and more importance to you.

Achievements are nothing but an added bonus to reward "grinding" in games. It all comes down to grinding if you think about it. Only exception are achievements that are beeing granted for finishing a chapter or something and those are actually not really achievements in the intended sense.

No matter how you look at it, it's just to keep you playing a little longer without having to provide CONTENT to accomplish that. Tie that into your GT and you're becoming an excellent example of how to shift a customers focus away from the product and towards an artificial community goal.

Now, I'm not saying achievements are bad. As always, bad is what ppl make of it :)

Really, you should'nt give a rats supersexy rearview about those achievements and just smile whenever you get one. But looking them up and playing to get them all ..... that's just absurd, sorry. But even then, as long as it entertains YOU it's all good. Just don't complain about achievements because that is where it gets really messed up :)

[MIT ACID]

its official i am an achievement whore

bow to this whore _o_ lol

[Fetter]

I'm alot newer than any of you to this. Got my 360 about 3 weeks ago and never used live before... but achievements are an interesting an idea. It's liek an added bonus. Although i do find myself playing 30 minutes more here and there trtying to hit that one achevment.

[Chris]

Maybe with Achievements they could eventually let you 'buy' things with them. It might add a little to the bonus idea. Sort of like Pepsi/Coke points or whatever that you get when you buy a 20oz.

[AugustusBot]

Maybe with Achievements they could eventually let you 'buy' things with them. It might add a little to the bonus idea. Sort of like Pepsi/Coke points or whatever that you get when you buy a 20oz.

I duno if i would want to actually spend my score / reduce it... But I would love it if say... Viva Pinata had a download on the Marketplace for a few new Pinatas and some Accessories... and you could only access it if you had 1000/1000.

Or an official Microsoft/Epic tournament for something like Gears of War... only people with 1000/1000 can enter the tournament...

edit: welcome Fetter! to the 360 and to xboxic!

[Chris]

Yes. It seems like they could do SOMETHING else with these points.

[Zerodisorder]

When my 360 was running I was really into the achievements that it got to a point where other games on other consoles seemed boring because they didn't have them, but since my 360 died I recieved an old Gamecube for free from a friend and I bought Resident Evil 4 and a couple other games and have been enjoying the hell out of them. I'm glad I can enjoy games without having to win points because I'd rather have the gameplay drive me to keep playing and not the fact I can increase my gamerscore.

[trj156]

Yes. It seems like they could do SOMETHING else with these points.

even an official GS leaderboard accessible through the dashboard would be nice.

[Rival24]

When my 360 was running I was really into the achievements that it got to a point where other games on other consoles seemed boring because they didn't have them, but since my 360 died I recieved an old Gamecube for free from a friend and I bought Resident Evil 4 and a couple other games and have been enjoying the hell out of them. I'm glad I can enjoy games without having to win points because I'd rather have the gameplay drive me to keep playing and not the fact I can increase my gamerscore.

I can enjoy myself with other games as well, but I don't really feel to explore the extras in those games. Playing the games on all difficulties? Nah. I'm currently playing God of War on the PS2 and I'm not going to play that again on a higher difficulty level. If it was released on the Xbox 360, I would probably.

[Voyager2k]

When my 360 was running I was really into the achievements that it got to a point where other games on other consoles seemed boring because they didn't have them, but since my 360 died I recieved an old Gamecube for free from a friend and I bought Resident Evil 4 and a couple other games and have been enjoying the hell out of them. I'm glad I can enjoy games without having to win points because I'd rather have the gameplay drive me to keep playing and not the fact I can increase my gamerscore.

You know, I am kinda going through the same thing right now. Just that my 360 didn't even die .....

All the next-gen supergoodness is sitting in my living room, catching dust. Accompanied by a semi-high-end sound system, a 40" hdtv and a bunch of games. All sitting there, catching dust.

Instead of dwelling in all the high-tech-next-gen-goodies at my place I am spending most of my time right now very comfortably suited in my bedroom with my ps2 hooked up to my old sony sdtv playing Final Fantasy XII and when I am done with that I have Xenosaga Episode II and III still waiting for me (probably gonna play Ep I again too and do the whole (almost, except Xenogears) story in one go) and after that the US release of Rogue Galaxy or whatever that new SciFi rpg is called should be out. And then that's that for ps2 ..... but ... all without achievements or any online multiplayer mumbojumbo :)

I thought after getting the 360 I'd never touch my xbox, ps2 or gc again but all it really takes is a few games and all that next-gen stuff means nada, zero and zilch. Changes your perspective somewhat :)

[The_Glovner]

Yes. It seems like they could do SOMETHING else with these points.

For every achievement point gained a PS3 Fanyboy dies.

Play your part in ridding the world of this blinkered scourge.

[TwoXist]

For every achievement point gained a PS3 Fanyboy dies.

Play your part in ridding the world of this blinkered scourge.

Lol Im doing my part!




good old Starship Troopers.

[xYouGot0wnedx]

Good thing I'm working on my gamerscore
@XBlue: you might want to hurry up and play some other games to get that "Pimp my ride" image out of your recently played games.
I'd be embarassed....

[Zerodisorder]

I wouldn't be embarrassed. It's just a game lol. I'm sure tons of people enjoyed the show and are curious about the game. I know I wanna see what it looks like.

[TwoXist]

Well since i get to demo games for free im not embarrassed. It started out kind of entertaining but needless to say it still sucked very very bad.

[Fetter]

Well since i get to demo games for free im not embarrassed. It started out kind of entertaining but needless to say it still sucked very very bad.

How did you manage to get to demo games for free?

[Rholo Tamasi]

I judge people soley on their gamerscore, despite race creed or color. This may seem harsh as I meet many people through work and elsewhere that don't have an xbox 360, these people fall into the "zero" category and rarely deserve my time. When meeting new people it's important to blurt out loudly "whats your gamerscore, my gamerscore is #_____?" Often you will be plagued with questions such as "who are you" and "what are you doing here", you will need to either mute these people or post a complaint regarding their conduct.
I hope this helps those of us who have lost touch with reality.

Post Script. the best gamerscore is always the one I have at that particular moment...

[kobejonez]

I'm definitely an underachiever as far as GS goes considering the amount of games I own, but theres some achievements that I can go back and get but theres a tonne that I'll never do. I've moved up recently Thanks mostly to Condemned and King Kong.

[UKJAY]

I dont care for achievements much really - Im one of those people that buy games, play them for a bit - put them down, buy another, play it for a bit, put it down - go back to an old game, then a new one....Im really all over the place

[Tucky]

im just going for 10k then ill be happy, im on 8053 atm:D
Great idea by MS, makes you play a game much more. Sony must love the idea too as they cant come up with a better one. 'entitlements' i mean come on! ateast acomplishments or something sony! haha!

[Curry]

Achievements inspire me to come back to a game to get one more bitchy achievement :P

Plus I'm about to break 10k. Rawr.

[AugustusBot]

I dont care for achievements much really - Im one of those people that buy games, play them for a bit - put them down, buy another, play it for a bit, put it down - go back to an old game, then a new one....Im really all over the place

That's part of the reason I'm in love w/ achievements.

I was once like you jason! I'd buy a game, play it for a week or so, decide the story wasn't enough / the gameplay wasn't fun enough, and i'd go back to the World, where I could accomplish things, and what i did today was cumulative for tomorrow.

Then achievement points came out. And i finish games. And i enjoy that i finish them, i feel like i accomplished something, not just played a week storyline.


I LOVE DEAD RISING!!!!! And these achievements have made me play it soooo much, and it's awesome, and like viva pinata, i'm pretty dissapointed that i've almost 100% cleared the game.

edit: oh wow it's been a while since i read that first post. i pretty much said half of this. uhh, sorry, you know i love typing ;).

[Fanappy]

meh i like achievements but im loving playing GOW with my friends that i dont really play anything else atm but Dead Rising is good shame about the sloppy aim system and save issues

[Rholo Tamasi]

When I finaly got a high speed connection and set up an Xbox live account I had to change my gamertag and lost all of my achievement points. Am I the only one to have to start over at zero? I feel miss represented by my current gamerscore, it doesn't correspond to the phenotypic signs of my addiction such as the pale skin or controller calluses.

[xYouGot0wnedx]

10k is nothing.
Going for 20k.

For the first time ever, I have controller calluses on my hands.
It's on my thumb. Too much Gears.

[Chris]

10k is nothing? You're just 488 over it.

[Rholo Tamasi]

Just a question... do you need to be a total gamefly junky or something to bust out those scores? I admit I have neither the time nor the funds to achieve 20k. Maybe after a few years of playing...

[Draistlin]

When I finaly got a high speed connection and set up an Xbox live account I had to change my gamertag and lost all of my achievement points. Am I the only one to have to start over at zero? I feel miss represented by my current gamerscore, it doesn't correspond to the phenotypic signs of my addiction such as the pale skin or controller calluses.


You did not have to make a new Acount you could have put you offline acount online, if the name is in use just change the name and put it online. (then name changings cost ya MS800 points).

[Curry]

10k is nothing? You're just 488 over it.
I broke 10k last night O+

[Jeff]

Achievement Points are so 2006 :+ the less the better O-)

[Rholo Tamasi]

You did not have to make a new Acount you could have put you offline acount online, if the name is in use just change the name and put it online. (then name changings cost ya MS800 points).


Yeah, I figured this out too late and I don't think I care enough to pay the 800 M points. I guess I'm just destined to mediocirity when it comes to my gamerscore.

[Rival24]

I broke 18K today O+

[Curry]

Achievement Points are so 2006 :+ the less the better O-)Lol nice amount on your card :P Fresh buyer?

[AugustusBot]

I broke 18K today O+

I got a new goal today :).

[TwoXist]

Damn FFXI so many hours spent playing that game...... Hence the possible low count

[Studley]

Achievements rule. Renting games definitely helps, but I don't rent them specifically for the achievements, I rent them because they're £40-£50 in the shops.

For instance, I just played through Tomb Raider three times to unlock most of the achievements (Normal difficulty / Hard difficulty / Time Trial). But I'm not a whore, if I was then I'd play through it again to collect all of the secret tokens, but then I realised that I'd be doing that just for the points, which IS a bit sad.

Saying that, there's a real satisfaction when you get 100% completion of all of the achievements, but I've not done that for a while :( Unless you count Ms Pacman...

[Curry]

Hey I got a bunch of the token achievements in Tomb Raider, nothing wrong with that ;(

[Daze Of War]

I love achievements. There is some games that I have played and will never get all or any from. I do rent most of my games from Gamefly. I just don't have the money anymore to go out and buy games like I use to. Plus some games I can beat in about 2 weeks and send it back. It helps weed out the games that I really want to spend my money on too.

It's a lot better when developers come up with great ways to get some of the achievements. Like Crackdown has one for juggling a vehicle in the air. Dead Rising had some great ones too. Any achievements that get you doing things that you might normally not do in a game are good ones. I see more of this in the future as devs. get more wild and crazy ideas.

But yes I am an achievement whore too, and damn proud of it. Hell I go back to old games every once and a while and try to unlock ones I haven't gotten yet.

[Curry]

AugustusBot: look, he's got 13k more than you, take up the challenge! :P

[Thryon]

Hi, my name is Thryon...and I am an achievement whore.

[Fanappy]

:O so i take it u've never been laid then ;) im joking that is an achievement

[max2663]

well i am an achievement whore and love to gloat infront of all my friends who have had there 360's longer than me and still have less points but i only have a few games ok 5 of which two are really gay(bioncle heroes and somefin else shitty which is my brothers) and 1 broke (pgr3) laser burned which leaves Viva Pinata Which is fun in short bursts and Gow which the story line is really boring so thats out and my gamerscore went back to zero a while back whats up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-(

[charmed699]

It went back to zero so maybe you made a new profile somhow or something like that?

[Pedle Zelnip]

It's a lot better when developers come up with great ways to get some of the achievements. Like Crackdown has one for juggling a vehicle in the air. Dead Rising had some great ones too. Any achievements that get you doing things that you might normally not do in a game are good ones. I see more of this in the future as devs. get more wild and crazy ideas.

Yeah but you have to be careful with that, as if the achievements are completely unrelated to the game and are really hard then they get even more frustrating. Like in Wik, the loopnastics achievements have absolutely nothing to do with beating the game, and are frustrating as hell.

I like achievements which force you to *check out* parts of the game you otherwise never would. Like for example, I never would've played CoD2 on the hardest difficulty if not for the achievements, but many of those levels were a lot of fun. I never would've even thought about trying for 1M points in Geo Wars if not for the achievements, yet I had a blast going for it (I still don't have the survived 1M, and I probably never will, but still...)

What I really hate are the tedious "play this game in this single mode for weeks and weeks and weeks" achievements. Like any of the multiplayer GoW achievements (10K kills especially). I also prefer achievements which can be gotten in single player rather than multiplayer. Actually ideally it should be up to the player which way to get them if possible, many XBLA games are starting to do this more and more which I like (ex Heavy Weapon and Small Arms had achievments which could be earned in either single or multi). Some gamers aren't hardcore enough to compete with the 1337 types who frequent ranked matches in games, so when there are online achievements it gets really hard for more casual gamers to get them.

The game I really liked the achievements in the most was Marvel Ultimate Alliance. I unlocked 14 achievements the first day I played it, and after that I was hooked (although I still don't have the hard difficulty or 4 player game achievements). It's really rewarding when achievements unlock at a steady clip in a game as it keeps you in that "oh just one more level" mindset (which of course can be bad as well, IIRC I skipped class that first day when I was playing MUA). ;)

[TRIGGER M4N]

Playstations 'Home' feature may kill Xbox-Live. The way they get achievements is 10000x better than a score.

[charmed699]

well that is quite an ambitious statement that you just made but you never know since it depends on how much effort sony puts into it. But if it is to be better than xbox live then maybe it wont be free to use because of the bandwidth.

[Curry]

Playstations 'Home' feature may kill Xbox-Live. The way they get achievements is 10000x better than a score.
Yeah, and the PS3 outputs dual-screen 1080p at 120FPS via 2 built-in HDMI ports, and has 3 1Gbit network ports.

iow: I'll see before believing anything Sony says.

[123Kiall]

I have recently purchased an xbox 360, and so far i have managed to accumulate 2350 Points for acheivements and received 75 acheivements.
I have also just bought OBLIVION and i have found that it is a brilliant game!

[Daze Of War]

I can't wait to get some of the PS3 "entitlements" HaHa what a joke. It's all about the 360 baby.

[Curry]

I have recently purchased an xbox 360, and so far i have managed to accumulate 2350 Points for acheivements and received 75 acheivements.
I have also just bought OBLIVION and i have found that it is a brilliant game!

put your gamertag in your profile here on the forum so it'll show up in your sig ;)

[Thryon]

On April 28 I will be 36...so as a personal challenge to myself, I will attempt to get my gamerscore up to 36000 thousand by April 28th. I have about 4500 to go from my current score. Wish me luck all (or wish me a real life....LOL)

PS/ At the time of this post, my score is currently at 31484.

[Curry]

Dude, 4500 in a month :X

[Rossko_UK]

Dude, 4500 in a month :X

That's four sports games and three Arcade games, pretty easy really :+

[Thryon]

LOL....it would be, if n ot for the fact, that I pretty much played all sports games already :)

I know know to stay away from DDR if I want acheivements....I am so uncoordinated, I cannot finish basic mode....but it is great fun

[Curry]

That's four sports games and three Arcade games, pretty easy really :+
Well true. I still haven't done King Kong yet for example :+

[nofear360]

Well true. I still haven't done King Kong yet for example :+
I've done King Kong back in October. It takes only 5-7 hrs to get all 1000 points but it's one hell of a boring adventure :(.

I was looking at your GRAW2 achievements and I'd like to know if it isn't too hard to do the campaign on the hardest difficulty on first playthrough? I see you did it on medium difficulty first and then on the hardest.

[Daze Of War]

I'm restarting my GRAW2 campaign. I'm going to just go through it on the hardest difficulty cause you can get all the achievements for campaign that way. I've put that on hold cause I just started playing Rainbow on realistic mode and damn is it hard. Just finished the 3rd level last night. Once I get through that I'll play GRAW2 on the hardest.

[360NORML]

I'm a huge fan of the achievement points. Normally I wouldn't try and beat some games at certain levels or even complete them. But if I see one of my friends has for example full stats achievement on Tony Hawk I've gotta have it too.

[Curry]

I've given that up, too many achievement whores on my friends list :z

[Rival24]

I've given that up, too many achievement whores on my friends list :z

No I just rushed it for 1000/1000 O-)

:D

[Daze Of War]

Curry's an achievement whore in denial. ;)

[nofear360]

:D

LMAO!!

[Curry]

:D
Shaddup mr. 18.5k :P
I was looking at your GRAW2 achievements and I'd like to know if it isn't too hard to do the campaign on the hardest difficulty on first playthrough? I see you did it on medium difficulty first and then on the hardest.
I'd recommend experienced players to start on Hard right away. It's easier than GRAW1's Hard mode.

[TRIGGER M4N]

Does anyone actually look at peoples achievements. Sit there and look at your recent players list and compare every game? It's all bullshit if you ask me, don't let them take you over.

[Daze Of War]

I actually look at other peoples achievements. I like to see what they might have that I don't. I might find someone to help me out.

[PaulWillocks]

Does anyone actually look at peoples achievements. Sit there and look at your recent players list and compare every game? It's all bullshit if you ask me, don't let them take you over.

I've got alot of friends who own 360's and I check their achievements but I generally dont check random gamertags.

[Fanappy]

well i would like more achievements i should have all 1000 for oblivion but i found a glitch and cannot complete the Thieves guild final quest :(, and couldnt be bothered with a new character but with shivering i prob will do it, i only ever check my clans gamerscore making sure i'm ahead of them.... (i have a social life therefore dont have a huge gamerscore compared to some of u guys tho)

[Curry]

Thieves Guild final quest had rather a number of glitches, but most of them were avoidable I think. Which one did you run into, out of curiosity?

[Fanappy]

right so u do the mission where u kill all the ogres and the guy and his brother move into the house and then u find out that their father was in the thieves guild with the whole sword thing, well u can sell the sword to a guy in a pub and buy stuff off him which i did then to later find out he is the contact u need to speak to to activate teh final challenge and he tells me every single time to piss off and i cannot even start it :P so im stuck on 950/1000

[Thryon]

I check achievements of my club members. Also I already mentioned how we use achievements to determine the winner of our monthly contests.

I will only look at a strangers achievement list, if he/she brags about having done something that can be proven. You would be amazed at how often someone bragged that X game was way too easy, and they finished it on the hardest level possible, without dying, blindfolded, but did not have the achievment to prove it.

[Curry]

right so u do the mission where u kill all the ogres and the guy and his brother move into the house and then u find out that their father was in the thieves guild with the whole sword thing, well u can sell the sword to a guy in a pub and buy stuff off him which i did then to later find out he is the contact u need to speak to to activate teh final challenge and he tells me every single time to piss off and i cannot even start it :P so im stuck on 950/1000
Lol okay you are screwed ;)

[Thryon]

Thieves Guild final quest had rather a number of glitches.....?

I know this is not the Oblivion thread, but I have to post it here because it did affect my achievements.

While playing Oblivion, I met with the Speaker of the Dark Brotherhood. After talking to me, he then turned invisible and left. This is when the nearby guard saw him, and then attacked the Speaker (who was still invisible), that is when all hell broke loose and several other nearby peasants attacked the guard, and then even more guards showed up. By the end of the battle, one guard, 4 peasants and the Speaker laid dead. I was able to take the invisibility cloak from the dead (and still invisible Speaker), but lost the ability to join the Dark Brotherhood and thus getting that line of achievements.

[Fanappy]

yeah its a shame there were quite so many glitches it was slightly rushed imo but still friggin quality game cannot waith for the fifth one and curry im royally screwed i must have spent several "weeks" standing waiting for someone to come and speak to me in the imperial city but there we go, new character and shivering will sort that out... i hope

[PaulWillocks]

Lol, Oblivion is so good yet so bad at the same time. Im stuck on the theives guild quest where you have to steel the ring out of some ladies jewellery box while she sleeps. Everytime I sneak into her bedroom and open her box the ring is never there. Its so annoying.

[Chris]

While playing Oblivion, I met with the Speaker of the Dark Brotherhood. After talking to me, he then turned invisible and left. This is when the nearby guard saw him, and then attacked the Speaker (who was still invisible), that is when all hell broke loose and several other nearby peasants attacked the guard, and then even more guards showed up. By the end of the battle, one guard, 4 peasants and the Speaker laid dead. I was able to take the invisibility cloak from the dead (and still invisible Speaker), but lost the ability to join the Dark Brotherhood and thus getting that line of achievements.
yeah its a shame there were quite so many glitches it was slightly rushed imo
See, that's only a glitch because the world is so open ended that nothing's scripted except for the stories and quests of course. You've got some scripted events happening among unscripted NPCs which is where the havoc usually starts. Some would say that's a glitch, I'd say it's a real life situation(It's extremely subjective). Bethesda did a great job with most of the AI, it's just too good at thinking sometimes. That's what happens when you try and integrate scripted events into a huge natural world with mostly everyone thinking for themselves.

[Thryon]

See, that's only a glitch because the world is so open ended that nothing's scripted. Some would say that's a glitch, I'd say it's a real life situation(It's extremely subjective). Bethesda did a great job with most of the AI, it's just too good at thinking sometimes. That's what happens when you try and integrate scripted events into a huge natural world with everyone thinking for itself.


I agree completly. I was not angry, but amazed at how the guard noticed him dissapearing, noticed the cloak and attacked. It was also amazing to see the peasants come to the rescue of the Speaker, and then the guard, call for backup. The whole scene made my gaming experience unique, instead of just another scripted event. I hope that Bethesda keeps this up.:)

I was planning on starting a new character anyway for the expansion...no biggie.

[Chris]

I want the expansion.

[Fanappy]

nice trailer for it on the marketplace

[Curry]

I know this is not the Oblivion thread, but I have to post it here because it did affect my achievements.

While playing Oblivion, I met with the Speaker of the Dark Brotherhood. After talking to me, he then turned invisible and left. This is when the nearby guard saw him, and then attacked the Speaker (who was still invisible), that is when all hell broke loose and several other nearby peasants attacked the guard, and then even more guards showed up. By the end of the battle, one guard, 4 peasants and the Speaker laid dead. I was able to take the invisibility cloak from the dead (and still invisible Speaker), but lost the ability to join the Dark Brotherhood and thus getting that line of achievements.
To speak in OOTS terms: "damn he failed his spot check" :+

for those that do not know OOTS, check here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0425.html). it requires some knowledge of pen&paper RPGs ;)

[UKJAY]

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[PaulWillocks]

Lol, I wondered if anyone would comment on that. I worded it like that purposely!

[Curry]

Lol I missed it at first, bitchin' English insider jokes :D

[Thryon]

On April 28 I will be 36...so as a personal challenge to myself, I will attempt to get my gamerscore up to 36000 thousand by April 28th. I have about 4500 to go from my current score. Wish me luck all (or wish me a real life....LOL)

PS/ At the time of this post, my score is currently at 31484.

Just an update....I have successfully completed my challenge. I am currently at 36094. I got 4610 in 25 days. No sports games where used to achieve this goal. I may now attempt to hit 40000 by April 28th...but I may need to tap a sports game or two for that one.

[ibaj]

Just an update....I have successfully completed my challenge. I am currently at 36094. I got 4610 in 25 days. No sports games where used to achieve this goal. I may now attempt to hit 40000 by April 28th...but I may need to tap a sports game or two for that one.


Grats, on the gamerscore!

[Studley]

My score looks pretty rubbish in comparison :(

Still slowly making my way towards 15000, but a lot of the games that I'm really enjoying playing at the moment don't have many easy-to-get points. Games like Pro Evolution Soccer, where you have to play through an entire 40-game season - and win the league - just to get a 20pt achievement. Same with Test Drive - it's a great game, but I'll struggle to get many of the multiplayer achievements because nobody seems to play online any more...

[renisindahouse]

Achievement whore here:)

[Pedle Zelnip]

Just an update....I have successfully completed my challenge. I am currently at 36094. I got 4610 in 25 days. No sports games where used to achieve this goal. I may now attempt to hit 40000 by April 28th...but I may need to tap a sports game or two for that one.

I'm curious, what were the games that gave you the 4610?

[nofear360]

I'm curious, what were the games that gave you the 4610?
If you checked out his gamertag, you'd see those game were Blazing Angels, Cars, and a couple of others ;). It looks like you just bought MotoGP 06 and if you bought it for achievements, beware it's not exactly the type of game that grants you 1000 points for doing little work lol. Actually, it's quite the opposite. I had a hard time with it which you can clearly see by those measly 140 points that I managed to unlock :P.

[Thryon]

Actually I bought MotoGP06 last yaer, only playing it now.

I can provide a list. Lets see.
TMNT(1000)
Eragon (1000)
Cars (100)
GRAW (125)
Blazing Angels (750)
Guitar Hero II (120)
Test Drive Unlimited (155)
Jet Pac Refueled (40)
Tetris Evolution (135)
Castlevania :SOTN (5)
Call of Duty 3 (330)
Prey (685)
Crackdown (100)
The Outfit (35)
TMNT:Arcade (20)
Pocket Bike Racer (10)

I think that is it...let me get Calc running here.....carry the one...yep...that is 4610

For the record, I actually own all these games. None where rented just to get achievement points.

[Pedle Zelnip]

Cool I was planning on renting TMNT and Cars, and was looking for a 3rd (I have a rent 2, get 1 free coupon), so I think Eragon might be the one I go with.

Hey, how hard did you find Blazing Angels, I just picked it up a couple weeks ago, and was going to really start playing it soon. So far I've played like 3 levels and haven't even come remotely close to an Ace time.

[Thryon]

Blazing Angels was extremely difficult. Finishing the game net you very little in points, you must finish ACE ranking to unlock all the planes, and this is required to get any achivement points. I have about 18 combat missions left to unlock the final achievements. For the record, I found Call of Duty 3 on veteran level easier. (notice I do not have that achievment, as I did not start a new game, but continued a game that was started in Normal by accident. While all the levels have been completed on Veteran, I did nto get the acheivement, and do not feel like doing it again.)

[nofear360]

COD 3 on Veteran was living hell for me and cheap at that too.

[Fanappy]

I liked COD 2's achievement (mainly cos u felt like u achieved something) that was my first game and first game i got full points for too... also completed COD 3 final level to get me up to the meger score of 8055 but that was my aim to get to 8000 points

[Pedle Zelnip]

I liked COD 2's achievement (mainly cos u felt like u achieved something) that was my first game and first game i got full points for too...

Yeah CoD2 was my first 1000/1000 as well. I was surprised as well at that feeling of accomplishment when I got that final "Achievement Unlocked" in that game. Was frustrating as hell at times, but was also super-fun at times as well.

So I've now played through TMNT, and should be finishing of Eragon as well today. I tried Cars yesterday, but I think I might give it a pass as I just can't get into it at all.

[screamidge]

Guitar Hero 2

Extra Credit Award
Viewed the credits

Long Road Ahead Award
Failed a song on Easy-so its an achievement to fail now boys and girls

[max2663]

fudgng hell my brother got me 300 points on bioncle woo hoo

[Wom]

I should focus more on my achievements, but i only play GoW online in non ranked matches... And that just my lame excuse for sucking at gaming :D

[Halo Man]

i have to admit ive fallen victim to this thanks to damn GoW, never again will i spend countless hours killing people with only the hammer of dawn only to gain 20 pts (50 maybe) :)

[...snip...]

[_Chris_]

i have to admit ive fallen victim to this thanks to damn GoW, never again will i spend countless hours killing people with only the hammer of dawn only to gain 20 pts (50 maybe) :)

[...snip...]
Dont fucking use the hammer then. its a shit wepon anyway, whip out a shotfun if you thin you got balls;)
shotgun...and any other typos, damn drunk typing.

[Halo Man]

Dont fucking use the hammer then. its a shit wepon anyway, whip out a shotfun if you thin you got balls;)
shotgun...and any other typos, damn drunk typing.

whateva whateva ill do what i want 8)

[_Chris_]

whateva whateva ill do what i want 8)
Then stop bitchin about it!
Damn..

[Fanappy]

My achievement was i drank enough last nite to think a kebab was a good idea my intestines this morning are telling me the errors of my way... :'(

[UKJAY]

My achievement was i drank enough last nite to think a kebab was a good idea my intestines this morning are telling me the errors of my way... :'(

Im vegetarian, but when Im drunk all I seem to want is KFC & Kebabs and Burgers with onions from burger stands on the way home... I would love to be able to remember what a kebab tasted like.....mmmmmm

[Fanappy]

ugh i wish i didnt remember what it tasted like should have had burger and onions stupid kebab van near my house.. ah well it was a top night out tho!!! so i take it u have become a veggie recently,

[UKJAY]

ugh i wish i didnt remember what it tasted like should have had burger and onions stupid kebab van near my house.. ah well it was a top night out tho!!! so i take it u have become a veggie recently,

I turned veggie at the same time I became an animal rights protester at 16 when all the live veal and lamb exports were going on 1995 / 1996...(that was just teenage stuff) you might remember it from the news a lot back then. (maybe?)

But I always stayed veggie. I still can look at meat and get hungry especially at the new BBQ chicken advert for KFC...but I just don't eat it. I've not ate any meat in 11 years...I think I'd be hospitalised if I did.

oh and hot dogs are another thing I could eat...but thankfully veggie hotdogs are no different, not even in taste...

[Fanappy]

yeah i do remember that i think i had to do an english or social studies thing on it, i like meat but i do quite often just eat veggie food and my mum like quorn stuff but it bacon that gets me love that the most

[UKJAY]

yeah i do remember that i think i had to do an english or social studies thing on it,

Yeah I was at a few protests on the farms and at the docks. The protests weren't about animals being killed for their meat though like a lot of people thought. It was about that they weren't being treated humanely. All squashed in the lorries and then not even being killed humanely in France & Italy - people wanted the animals to be slaughtered in this country before being exported - but the french cut baby calves throats and hung them upside down cos they like the meat to be pure white, but the animals are still partially alive whilst hanging and having their throats cuts. They weren't even being stunned or killed outright first...it was awful...but im not a hippy vegetarian type.

[_Chris_]

Yeah I was at a few protests on the farms and at the docks. The protests weren't about animals being killed for their meat though like a lot of people thought. It was about that they weren't being treated humanely. All squashed in the lorries and then not even being killed humanely in France & Italy - people wanted the animals to be slaughtered in this country before being exported - but the french cut baby calves throats and hung them upside down cos they like the meat to be pure white, but the animals are still partially alive whilst hanging and having their throats cuts. They weren't even being stunned or killed outright first...it was awful...but im not a hippy vegetarian type...Im always drooling over meat... ( and no _chris_ not that kind)
LOL i wasnt going to say anything sexual! i was just going to comment on how sick and evil that is, at least kill the bloody animal. fuck leaving it alive with its throat cut...thats just pure evil.

[mass9]

:9~ :9~ :9~ :9~ :9~
mmmmmmm...............you guys are making me hungry.
veal is yummy.

[UKJAY]

.

[Pedle Zelnip]

Im vegetarian, but when Im drunk all I seem to want is KFC & Kebabs and Burgers with onions from burger stands on the way home... I would love to be able to remember what a kebab tasted like.....mmmmmm

I'm a veggie as well, and drunk or no, KFC still grosses me out (just the smell makes me want to hurl). :?

[Chris]

KFC and Chicken Wings FTW

[_Chris_]

BURGER KING FTW!!!

[Curry]

Yeah I was at a few protests on the farms and at the docks. The protests weren't about animals being killed for their meat though like a lot of people thought. It was about that they weren't being treated humanely. All squashed in the lorries and then not even being killed humanely in France & Italy - people wanted the animals to be slaughtered in this country before being exported - but the french cut baby calves throats and hung them upside down cos they like the meat to be pure white, but the animals are still partially alive whilst hanging and having their throats cuts. They weren't even being stunned or killed outright first...it was awful...but im not a hippy vegetarian type...Im always drooling over meat... ( and no _chris_ not that kind)
I think EU legislation prohibits that too.

Here in NL the cows are killed by thrusting an iron bar through the base of the brain with air pressure. Apparently a painless and absolute death within 0.1 second.

[mass9]

MEAT in general, FTW!!!!!
:9~ :9~ :9~ :9~ :9~ :9~

...... cows are killed by thrusting an iron bar through the base of the brain with air pressure. Apparently a painless and absolute death within 0.1 second.

What's a partial death?:P :? :P :?

Achievment Unlocked!
Eat some Meat.
250 (gp)

EDIT: I met some really skanky chic on the weekend. By the end of the night, she had unlocked that achievment, if you know what I mean.

[Rival24]

I don't know what you mean, please explain. :P

[mass9]

I don't know what you mean, please explain. :P

Pretty simple really. We went to an all night steak house.
What did you think I meant?
Oh Rival, you certainly are preverted. C'mon man, get your mind out of the gutter.;)

[UKJAY]

I think EU legislation prohibits that too.

Here in NL the cows are killed by thrusting an iron bar through the base of the brain with air pressure. Apparently a painless and absolute death within 0.1 second.

...wonderful...(ouch)

[Chris]

We slit throats here I think.

[Wom]

The company I work for has big chicken farms in Russia. And there all the animals go into one big room which has one big cutting blade at necklevel. So all the heads are chopped off at once.

We used to have it in the UK aswell, but it was cheaper to do it in Russia I assume.

Still enjoying working there though.

[mass9]

The company I work for has big chicken farms in Russia. And there all the animals go into one big room which has one big cutting blade at necklevel. So all the heads are chopped off at once.

We used to have it in the UK aswell, but it was cheaper to do it in Russia I assume.

Still enjoying working there though.

Are you sure you're not talking about the South Park Ep. with the retarded turkey?

[_Chris_]

Are you sure you're not talking about the South Park Ep. with the retarded turkey?
Thats exactly what i was thinking... Ahh Gobbles...
GOBBLES!!

[mass9]

Thats exactly what i was thinking... Ahh Gobbles...
GOBBLES!!

TIMMAY!!!!!

[UKJAY]

The company I work for has big chicken farms in Russia. And there all the animals go into one big room which has one big cutting blade at necklevel. So all the heads are chopped off at once.

We used to have it in the UK aswell, but it was cheaper to do it in Russia I assume.

Still enjoying working there though.

In the UK, chickens are put on racks to have their heads cut off...one big room 8)7they can fly to a point you know...

[Pedle Zelnip]

Okay this thread has really gone off the rails into off-topic territory. :P

To bring things back to the topic of points:

Just an update....I have successfully completed my challenge. I am currently at 36094. I got 4610 in 25 days. No sports games where used to achieve this goal. I may now attempt to hit 40000 by April 28th...but I may need to tap a sports game or two for that one.

My turn to boast a bit: my birthday was yesterday (the 18th) and I wanted to get up to 17000 before then. I had a little over a month to do it (I started on the 14th of March). Not only did I do it, but I surpassed it by a couple thousand GS. From March 14th to April 13th, I earned a cumulative total of 7,585 GS. Of course, to get that, there were a couple sports titles in there. ;) The breakdown:

Crackdown - 830
Galaga - 185
NBA 2K6 - 1000
Open Season - 1000
College Hoops 2K6 - 1000
Jetpac - 150
Gears of War - 275
Marvel Ultimate Alliance - 65
Quake 4 - 80
TMNT - 1000
Eragon - 1000
Cars - 1000

So in one month I managed to complete 6 full retail games (granted they were all *really easy* ones), plus earn a few of time-consuming ones (like a few of the multiplayer Gears ones, a couple Quake 4 ones on harder difficulties, the Orbs in Crackdown, etc)

My gamerscore now (as of today which includes the additional 190 I've earned since the 13th) stands at 19,450. I should've tried for 20K for my birthday.... 8)7

Now I'm continuing working on some of those elusive online Gears achievements (which is not easy because I am at best an average Gears player), as well as Viva Pinata (which is a surprisingly good game). I also got Prey for my birthday yesterday, and a buddy of mine bought a cheap used copy of Earth Defence 2017 to play during our weekly co-op Xbox night. And on top of that, I'm pretty-well off work until the end of the month, so my GS should hit that 20K mark in notime.

And yes, for the record, I AM an achievement whore. 8)

[Thryon]

Congrats!!!

I wanted to try 40k...but dang university course getting into the way of my study time...

Ironic that my own gaming habits are getting in the way of me completing my paper on gaming addiction :)

[Pedle Zelnip]

Congrats!!!

I wanted to try 40k...but dang university course getting into the way of my study time...

Ironic that my own gaming habits are getting in the way of me completing my paper on gaming addiction :)

I can *SO* relate to that as the final paper for the course I was doing this term was seriously neglected during my 7K run (it should've been done by last week, but didn't get finished and submitted until yesterday). ;)

As for the paper topic, that has gotta be the coolest idea for a term paper I've ever heard of. :)

[Chris]

I got 11 achievements last night. 390 points I think.

wººt

[max2663]

In the UK, chickens are put on racks to have their heads cut off...one big room 8)7they can fly to a point you know...

achievements.schrankmonster.de/Achievement.aspx?text=kill%20100%20chickens

[BruNasty]

Metaphor time!!!!
UKJay is the penny to the railroad of our forums

[UKJAY]

Metaphor time!!!!
UKJay is the penny to the railroad of our forums

...I don't think so !! read everything from the beginning...

[mass9]

Ironic that my own gaming habits are getting in the way of me completing my paper on gaming addiction :)

Hillarious.
But thats always the way it goes, eh?
:P

[Thryon]

I have my final exam of Tuesday for the course I am taking, then I am done for a short while. To celebrate, I will attempt another achievement goal. The last time, I managed to get an average of 180 points a day, for 25 days to complete my challenge....

This time. My goal will be 50000 by August 01. Since I already have 37584, I will need to get 12416 in the next 61 days, to complete my goal. That is an average of 204 points a day, to achieve my challenge.

I just hope my marriage holds up after this one :P

[HylianHitman]

I only really use achievement points to keep my friends (most of them!) and my cousin in line.

[nofear360]

I recently bought FIFA 06 and X-men: The Official Game solely for achievements. Being a footie fan, FIFA 06 is a lot of fun and the 6 achievements in the game are a piece of cake to unlock. X-men is the exact opposite. The game is terribly boring and, surprisingly, very challenging. The gameplay is so broken that I've decided to give up on it completely (ZOMG!!! What about those 980 points waiting to be added to my gamerscore!!?? :(). You can buy it from me on eBay tomorrow :P.

[Thryon]

I see it is FIFA RTFWC, I already have the 1000 points for that game. I did not play the FIFA World Cup one yet. As for X-Men, I got most of them, I am missing the Nightcrawler fully evolved one, and when I got that one, I would get the last one also...but cannot go through that again for only 175 points...unless that is all I need to complete my goal.

[Pedle Zelnip]

At the risk of reviving a dead thread....


My turn to boast a bit: my birthday was yesterday (the 18th) and I wanted to get up to 17000 before then. I had a little over a month to do it (I started on the 14th of March). Not only did I do it, but I surpassed it by a couple thousand GS. From March 14th to April 13th, I earned a cumulative total of 7,585 GS. Of course, to get that, there were a couple sports titles in there. ;)

Okay I outdid myself in the last month. In August I gained a cumulative total of 10,280 gamerscore. Waaaay too many easy titles for it to really be meaningful, but for the record:

Blazing Angels 1000
Madden 06 1000
Spyglass Board Games 195
Crackdown 350
3D Ultra Mini Golf 200
F4: ROTSS 1000
Shrek The 3rd 1000
X-Men 1000
Fight Night Round 3 1000
FIFA 06: RTFWC 50
Prey 250
Contra 75
NHL 07 1000
Madden NFL 07 810
Burnout Revenge 150
Track & Field 200
NBA Live 06 1000

With the exception of FIFA, Madden 07, Burnout and Spyglass, all games were completed to 100% during the month. And of those, Spyglass I've been a victim of the "Play 5 won't unlock" glitch, and Burnout has only 2 achievements left (Win 50 races and Win 40 crash events). So total of 13 games finished off (14 if you count Spyglass) and 8 of those were full 1000 gamerscores in the month. :)

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your POV), September I have to go back to work/school, so I won't be able to devote the rediculous amount of time to my Xbox that I did in August. :+