Mad Tracks on Xbox LIVE!!!

[Paul Tancred]

OMG!!! What a big shock!!!

I totally can't wait for this game, now!!!

The several months delay will be damn worth it for LIVE!

DenisDenis, let me be the first to tell you how excitied I am!!!

Quick question... will this mean a hike in price, or a change in achievements?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_ _o_

[kidkit]

If the achievements work has been done then I say leave it alone and keep this update as simple and focused as possible.

I think Load made the right decision here though. There is still no competition for the product, 2 months won't hurt anybody.

[Paul Tancred]

If the achievements work has been done then I say leave it alone and keep this update as simple and focused as possible.

I think Load made the right decision here though. There is still no competition for the product, 2 months won't hurt anybody.
True, true.

I also wonder if this means they can still get the 45 challenges in with only two Expansions or if they will have to have a third. I wonder this because obviously Live is going to take up some space, right?

[TRIGGER M4N]

Changed my mind 100%.
This is going to be a 100% purcahse for me now.

[Paul Tancred]

Changed my mind 100%.
This is going to be a 100% purcahse for me now.
And most likely for a lot of other people, too. I just hope it isn't like, 2007 when it comes out.

[Ponder416]

Cool!!! I can see a Xboxic -vs- _____ in the works...lol

Thanks, DenisDenis u da man!!! WOOT

[Nekro Neko]

Very good decission, because it will now sell about 4 times as much (at the very least) as it would've without.

I for one will be buying this now.

[Zerodisorder]

Thanks DenisDenis for making our dreams come true and putting multiplayer in the game :D_o_

[Dirty Duck]

Will deff buy this now it will have live support

[Studley]

So now we know that Denis can be swayed by public opinion ;)

Let's start a campaign to get it released for 400 points, and with free naked lady themes 8)

[Paul Tancred]

So now we know that Denis can be swayed by public opinion ;)

Let's start a campaign to get it released for 400 points, and with free naked lady themes 8)
Yes to 400 points, no to themes.

[TRIGGER M4N]

Studley, want naked chicks as a background?
Google->Images->type "porn"->Save picture as->load it your 360. BAM! Done.

[Nino]

Hehe I knew you'd be happy. It was hard to keep my mouth shut with the petition and all... ;(

[Rival24]

Yeah hehe, I had to lie a couple of times to a some people:D

[Ponder416]

Yeah hehe, I had to lie a couple of times to a some people:D


YA, I didn't have a clue either...O-)

[Hoffer]

I was one of the people that showed my disappointment for the lack of Xbox Live in every thread or news article posted about this game.

To show my appreciation for them adding it back in, I will buy the game no matter what. 1200 points and bad reviews?? I'm buying it. I'm just glad they listened.

[Paul Tancred]

Hehe I knew you'd be happy. It was hard to keep my mouth shut with the petition and all... ;(

Yeah hehe, I had to lie a couple of times to a some people:D
For how long did you guys know?

[Rival24]

For how long did you guys know?
A couple of days or a week or something.

[DenisDenis]

(...)I think Load made the right decision here though. There is still no competition for the product, 2 months won't hurt anybody.
Thanks a lot.
Regarding the added time, it's more going to be 4 months at least.
Cheers guys.
D.

[DenisDenis]

True, true.

I also wonder if this means they can still get the 45 challenges in with only two Expansions or if they will have to have a third. I wonder this because obviously Live is going to take up some space, right?
Adding Live multiplayer does not add anything.
It's just code lines and a little menu touch up.
It won't change size or number of packs.
;)

[TRIGGER M4N]

Doesn't MS give you XNA or whatever, so adding Live shouldn't be too hard?
Also Denis, how do you feel now everyone is now going to buy this?

[kobejonez]

This is brilliant we love the PC version in our household and can't wait for the XBLA version, will be a must own title cos of the party elements and now xblive as well !!! sweet.

[Zerodisorder]

Thanks a lot.
Regarding the added time, it's more going to be 4 months at least.
Cheers guys.
D.
Thanks for taking the extra time Denis, the games gunna rock.

[Rival24]

Maybe I'll buy it now :)

[Messiah]

I'm seriously gonna buy this game now. I was totally addicted to Mashed/Revolt and that kind of games. And now with XBox Live Mulitplayer it's even getting better :D.

And yeah it was hard to keep our mouth shut... but DennisDennis we love you!

Finally a company that listens to their costumers

[Chris]

Why was I left in the dark? Man this sucks.

[Rival24]

Why was I left in the dark? Man this sucks.
You prefer the game coming out now without Live?

[Chris]

Nope. I just noticed everyone except for me saying "Mannnn it was hard to keep that secret"

[cybermans]

Damn now we have to wait for Q1 2007,


Zoals Bert zei:
Wachten duurt lang lang lang, wat duurt dat wachten lang

[Rival24]

Nope. I just noticed everyone except for me saying "Mannnn it was hard to keep that secret"
Well... you share an apartment wth Miss loudmouth :P ;)

[Paul Tancred]

Denis, I have a question for you. Why did you now decied to add Live? It doesn't make sense to me.

The conclusion I've drawn (which might be wrong...) is that Xbox Live was intended all along, but to test the water, you'd say there wasn't going to be Live. Then, when you saw that so many more people would infact buy it with Live, you added it. However, if people didn't care, you wouldn't have.

I've drawn that conclusion because, while it seems stupid, it's the most logical explanation. Why else would you lose 4 months+ money just to sell more Mad Tracks on XBLA. Unless, of course, you now are thinking of charing 800 MSP instead of 400 MSP. But still, losing 4 months+ of money is a lot... and coffee isn't free

Anyway, it's not like I mind why the reason is, but it would be nice to know. I just really wanna play Mad Tracks now.

And just one tip... while you can randomly shoot Nazis/Allies with lag, you can't randomly turn corners and use pick-ups with lag (i.e. please try and avoid the lag problem)

[DenisDenis]

Why was I left in the dark? Man this sucks.
There was only one person in the know outside Microsoft & Load Inc.
(not telling who, but he posts here) 8)

[DenisDenis]

Denis, I have a question for you. Why did you now decied to add Live? It doesn't make sense to me.
The conclusion I've drawn (which might be wrong...)
They are >:)
We were going to be juggling too many balls with implementing Live. When we took this decision with Microsoft (mostly to answer players wish), we also had to take the decision of dropping another project. As you know, we're not Blizzard or Tecmo. We can't 'test the waters' - way too expensive.

Anyway, it's not like I mind why the reason is, but it would be nice to know. I just really wanna play Mad Tracks now.
And just one tip... while you can randomly shoot Nazis/Allies with lag, you can't randomly turn corners and use pick-ups with lag (i.e. please try and avoid the lag problem)
The down side is that now everyone has to wait. Maybe I'll be more quiet on forums and overall communication and I will focus on what's coming up.

Regarding frame rate, Xbox360 has very strict requirements. You just can't make a Live game with lag. Happy? 8)

Have a great day!
Denis.

[Nino]

Denis: 30 or 60FPS?

[Curry]

Although I couldn't really judge properly on the office SDTV I'd expect Mad Tracks is running a solid 60FPS?

[Paul Tancred]

[...]
Regarding frame rate, Xbox360 has very strict requirements. You just can't make a Live game with lag. Happy? 8)
[...]
It didn't stop Frogger's lag, lol. But yeh, I'm damn happy it'll be on LIVE and won't lag.

Thanks man.

[Curry]

Good thing about online racing is that it allows "player action prediction" to work fine since you can't guess too far off if some network packets get lost. For shooters a short bout of lag is far worse, and for something like DoA4 and SF2 it's horrible.

[DenisDenis]

Denis: 30 or 60FPS?
I'm not allowed to reveal Microsoft requirements (TCR).
You'll have to count the frames once you get the game. 8)7

[kidkit]

Although I couldn't really judge properly on the office SDTV I'd expect Mad Tracks is running a solid 60FPS?

we should pitch in and sponser a vga cable. SDTV isn't a word i understand anymore :?

[Rival24]

we should pitch in and sponser a vga cable. SDTV isn't a word i understand anymore :?
What's SDTV? O-)

[Zerodisorder]

What's SDTV? O-)
The kind of television I play my 360 on :P

[Nino]

I'm not allowed to reveal Microsoft requirements (TCR).
You'll have to count the frames once you get the game. 8)7
Jeez that's strict :?, judging by Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter the minimum framerate is 12FPS or so :D

[Paul Tancred]

we should pitch in and sponser a vga cable. SDTV isn't a word i understand anymore :?
They are only about €30. So I take it you are offering to buy it and pay for P & P?

[kidkit]

P & P?

[Paul Tancred]

P & P?
Post & Packaging. Basically, postage costs.

[kidkit]

I knew it was something like that, our term here shipping & handling so i wasn't familiar with that one =]

[DenisDenis]

Yes, Mad Tracks will have Live Miltiplayer Mode.
(Just getting back to topic 8) )

[Curry]

What's a miltiplayer?

[Scarbir]

Oh yes, this might be insanely good. I'm really looking forward to this. Expect a PM from me soon, Denis.

[Zerodisorder]

What's a miltiplayer?
You see who can Milt the best :?

[DenisDenis]

What's a miltiplayer?

Ok, ok, I get it.
No typos allowed, right?
Gee... I have a game to finish here, cut me some slack 8)7

Here's a good interview from a weird guy: www.teamxbox.com (http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1689/Mad-Tracks-Interview/p1/).

Have a good day y'all.

[Curry]

Ok, ok, I get it.
No typos allowed, right?
Gee... I have a game to finish here, cut me some slack 8)7
:* :P

[kidkit]

20 days from launch huh, that's pretty rough.

Another nice interview, I'll do my best to have a fat free © day good sir :).

[Scarbir]

Nice interview indeed, gets me even warmer for the game.

Still I wonder if it's a good idea to store every pickup you can pick up. Wouldn't that deliver too much mess?

[Paul Tancred]

Nice interview indeed, gets me even warmer for the game.

Still I wonder if it's a good idea to store every pickup you can pick up. Wouldn't that deliver too much mess?

The more the mess... the more the fun >:)

[DenisDenis]

Nice interview indeed, gets me even warmer for the game.

Still I wonder if it's a good idea to store every pickup you can pick up. Wouldn't that deliver too much mess?

The hard part is to use them all in 2 or 3mn...
In some challenges, you'll be literaly swamped by 10s of pick ups. Hmmm, trust me, that's where the fun begins...
>:)

.

[Scarbir]

Alright, I hold you to that ;)

Played the demo yesterday by the way but kept losing of the computer with this soccergame. This game BREATHES Xbox Live.

[DenisDenis]

Alright, I hold you to that ;)

Played the demo yesterday by the way but kept losing of the computer with this soccergame. This game BREATHES Xbox Live.

And wait till you play online soccer in the ice tub!!
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/m/a/madtpc066.jpg
Yes, it breathes Live Multiplayer!

[htimsda]

Here's a good interview from a weird guy: www.teamxbox.com (http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1689/Mad-Tracks-Interview/p1/).

Have a good day y'all.

Denis,

In that interview you said:

"We will not support system link (I still question the use of it – would you go to a friend’s house with your Xbox and tv?). Split screen 4 players is functional. "

Yes, occasionally. But not with a standar TV; I have two projectors. They are very portable and allow for giant screen sizes. Also, most people have more than one TV, so you could just take your Xbox to their house and use one of their other TVs. Live is great, but playing against other people in the same house/room is more fun.

I agree that Xbox Live will get much more use than system link, but it isn't as impractical as you apparently think.

And while split screen may be functional, nobody really likes to share/split their screen, especially with 3 other people.

[Zerodisorder]

I'm real glad that the game isn't going to be expensive either. :D But even if it was I'd still have to get it cause it looks great.

[kidkit]

htimsda, true! but... nobody is stopping you from both playing on xbox live side by side (as long as the proper networking is in place, and you both have gold).

[Zerodisorder]

hmm my advise is...suck it up :P I mean split screen is good and all especially in a racing game but this is an arcade game, and we're only paying at most 1200 points altogether (including bravo and encore) so I think I'd rather it have xbox live and no split screen than neither.

[htimsda]

hmm my advise is...suck it up :P I mean split screen is good and all especially in a racing game but this is an arcade game, and we're only paying at most 1200 points altogether (including bravo and encore) so I think I'd rather it have xbox live and no split screen than neither.

I agree. In a low priced Live game, I think it is absolutely acceptable to not have system link. I guess I came across a bit strong there, but my point is that this is a nice feature that is practical for some people.

[Zerodisorder]

I agree. In a low priced Live game, I think it is absolutely acceptable to not have system link. I guess I came across a bit strong there, but my point is that this is a nice feature that is practical for some people.

Yea of course it is a nice feature, I loved playing games like Halo, Splinter Cell 2 and 3, and PGR2 all system link at my friends house..it was great fun and was good for a bunch of people, even good if it was two of us.

[Hoffer]

I have zero use for system link. It was good to delay the game for Xbox Live play, but I give thumbs down to another delay for system link.

[Paul Tancred]

I have zero use for system link. It was good to delay the game for Xbox Live play, but I give thumbs down to another delay for system link.

Trust me... there will be no delay for System Link.

[Scarbir]

If it shouldn't delay the game, I'd say: implement it rightaway. There aren't too many games to combine 4 player splitscreen ánd system link at the same time, so this should be a must buy for the new guys in town who just bought their 360s.

System Link made Halo: Combat Evolved even bigger in later stadia. Players got convinced and bought their own Xbox. Mad Tracks should do the same lil' trick for XBLA :)

[DenisDenis]

Ok, ok, system link is good.
Actualy, LAN is good.
In terms of performance, it's 1.000 times better than over internet.
I think it's actualy the best way of playing multiplayer.
Heck, we play ReVolt LAN all the time at Load Inc., we also play a lot of Mad Tracks LAN during lunch.
But when we studied the Link system on console (PS2 & Xbox), we came accross some very disapointing figures.
Live is obvious for the Xbox community, Link is not.
Unless someone comes with a VERY solid argument (ie: I will buy 50.000 games if you implement Link) it won't be in. :'(

Still, I think LAN rules. On PC.
Cheers,

[Scarbir]

Blergh, I already told you some guys in town will have to and will buy Mad Tracks if it had LAN-support. That's two down. 48.998 to go!

[Rival24]

I will buy 50.000 games!

If I win the lottery

[The_Glovner]

Ah so thats how you got the gamerscore so high.

Denis,

Yes, occasionally. But not with a standar TV; I have two projectors. They are very portable and allow for giant screen sizes.

Ooooooo look at you with your two big fancy projectors eh.

Making up for something?O-)

[Rival24]

Ah so thats how you got the gamerscore so high.
I get paid bigtime to play games :P

[DenisDenis]

I get paid bigtime to play games :P

You too??

.

[The_Glovner]

Swines. I get paid to test and analyse.

Thats like comparing I nice crisp pair of new calvins to a pair of shit stained leopard print Y's

[TRIGGER M4N]

This is the best place to ask I think, I didn't want to make another Mad Tracks/Load Inc. thread.
If Mad Tracks does well in the ol' selling department, will Load Inc. be doing full retail games?

[Chris]

good question.

[Curry]

This is the best place to ask I think, I didn't want to make another Mad Tracks/Load Inc. thread.
If Mad Tracks does well in the ol' selling department, will Load Inc. be doing full retail games?
As far as I know Load Inc wants to stay focused on the small-team-fun-games efforts for the time being. Retail games require a lot more resources and efforts than XBLA titles.

[DenisDenis]

As far as I know Load Inc wants to stay focused on the small-team-fun-games efforts for the time being. Retail games require a lot more resources and efforts than XBLA titles.

Curry has a point, although we have been discussing mid to low price Xbox360 titles.
We could fit in that slot.

So far, we're focussing on XBLA, just like NinjaBee or Pop Cap.
I have to make my Leipzig suitcase now!!!
Cheers,