Would anyone prefer better features on Live ?

[UKJAY]

Does anyone agree with me that Xbox live should have better features?
I'd like to see a few shopping options to buy and get hardware / games delivered. Plus a Live Messenger tab for also being able to speak and send messages to those on MSN. I think we should be able to see the age and area of gamers also if a gamer permits this information to be visable, and search for gamers in our own area or something.

I live in Devon UK and it was 8 months before I joined an online game where I was randomly put with someone else who lives only 8 miles away from me. The chances of that happening again is rare

[Curry]

Doesn't it defeat the whole point of Live though that it hooks you up with random players that have an acceptable network connection to your current location? I think it'd suck if I were only hooked up with Dutch peepz ;)

As for MSN, I suspect that's going to happen with the further integration of Live Anywhere and Vista.

[Rival24]

I wouldn't mind being hooked up with Dutch guys, but I also wouldn't mind being hooked up to random guys around the world with a decent connection. What I don't like is Germans who have their filter set to German only, which happens in quite a lot of games.

[Zerodisorder]

I'm happy with what we have now and im sure over time it will evolve, i read in GameInformer today that Microsoft is planning a new xbox live update in fall, so theyre trying to make it better and better each time.

[Cage]

I believe that was the plan all along. 2 big updates per year and 2 smaller ones.. So they have to think of new things for the updates and I'm sure that MS Live chat will be one of those.
I'm sure Curry will post the link to an xboxic article below, so go check it out :+

[YLA G]

i am sure with live anywhere that they mean VOIP and chat as well

so if you have a wifi windows mobile (a smartphone that works awesome) and a xbox 360 then you can communicate in either way.. maybe even the webcam function, and if you use Live (msn) it works as well.

[Scarbir]

Looking to the incredible interest in the Vision Webcam, I think every Live-update may be a succes. So they can do everything. First step? Introducing the 'consumables'. Jay.

[Studley]

Some sort of web browsing capability on the 360 would be nice (there are some third-party tools which already let you do this, aren't there?)

Alongside this, it would be nice if there could be some sort of mini Xbox.com accessible via the dashboard. What I mean is, it's great that we've now got these "Newly Released Downloads" sections where we can check what's new, but the average user without much internet access isn't going to know (for example) that Hold Em is released tomorrow, and that it's free for the first 48hrs only. Some sort of properly updated page showing future releases, giving more detail about the content of releases (e.g. what tracks or features are included in a demo, decent previews of the content of themes), accessible via the dashboard... that would be really useful.

[Curry]

Some sort of web browsing capability on the 360 would be nice (there are some third-party tools which already let you do this, aren't there?)
Only via Media Center, and no intention whatsoever to officially support a web browser on the short term. Microsoft wants to keep the machine a console, and leave typical computer tasks for the computers. They're looking at integrating some sort of web content, but only games related stuff obviously (think cheats, reviews, previews etc.).

[The_Glovner]

They need to allow conference private chats.

[Studley]

Actually there's a bug I'd like fixed... I've got a Media Center PC and I can browse to music on my PC from my 360, which is great. But there seems to be a limitation to how much you can browse; when I'm scrolling through artist / track titles, it gets to about F and then there's no more.

Probably Bill Gates' way of telling me I own too much music, but it's really annoying, I have to make playlists if I want to play anything after F...

[Cage]

Speaking of music via 360 or media center: They should put in an option to sort via folders instead of mp3 tag.. I hate that.. My pc has all music organized in folders and most of my mp3's don't have tags, so I'm allways looking for that one song and can't find it.. sucks major balls...

[MrMoen]

What I don't like is Germans who have their filter set to German only, which happens in quite a lot of games.

The French are even better at that :-(

I think Live works just fine. It does what it is made for.

[Chris]

I think Live works just fine. It does what it is made for.

The original Xbox live did what it was made for too, but added features with Xbox Live on the Xbox 360 made it 1000 times better. Added features are always a good thing. Could you imagine live without downloadable demos/content in general? Microsoft striving to be better is a good thing.

[Rival24]

Yeah I agree Chris, but they shouldn't overdo it :). Browers, IM and all that sort of stuff only make the interface more complicated.

[Curry]

And it screws up the fact that it is basically a game console.

[Chris]

But if you want to take advantage of all of the hardware you've bought, why not make some software available that uses it in other ways? I mean, are you really going to argue that it can play dvds? Because that has nothing to do with playing a video game.

"I DIDN'T BUY A DVD PLAYER ASSHOLES, I BOUGHT A GAME CONSOLE!!!"

[Zerodisorder]

I wish you could have private chat with more people at once, so like a group private chat.

[Curry]

But if you want to take advantage of all of the hardware you've bought, why not make some software available that uses it in other ways? I mean, are you really going to argue that it can play dvds? Because that has nothing to do with playing a video game.

"I DIDN'T BUY A DVD PLAYER ASSHOLES, I BOUGHT A GAME CONSOLE!!!"
Yeah well but rendering moving imagery is a rather basic element of most games, browsing the internet and posting on forums is not ;)

Also, the controller is fit for controlling DVD playback, not for browsing the net.

[MrMoen]

Yeah well but rendering moving imagery is a rather basic element of most games, browsing the internet and posting on forums is not ;)

Also, the controller is fit for controlling DVD playback, not for browsing the net.


Well USB keyboard would do the trick. But I agree with you, Its still basicly a gaming console. MS should not try to turn it into a personal computer

[Studley]

I actually already use a wireless USB keyboard for my 360 ;) I just keep it by the side of the sofa and whip it out if I need to type a message quickly.

Slightly tragically, I actually bought it to use in FFXI, before realising that it was a big pile of wee

[Zerodisorder]

I bought one for the beta of FFXI lol, till I realised i got very bored with it lol.

[UKJAY]

Anyone have any idea when the Fall update is...I've searched around can't find any expected dates but someone else may have heard rumours?

The MSN thing like I originally wanted a long time ago is here - but would be better if you could cross communicate with webcam and voice chat too, needs big improvements other than text talk.

Plus I always wanted to group friends into different categories and show offline/online to each group because when Im in one game I keep getting invites to to other games.

Video marketplace whether it's there or not dont bother me because I rent films anyway - but waiting for downloads is a killer !! It takes long enough for a demo and a whole movie would just kill me...

[Rossko_UK]

There's no word yet from anyone.

[Jamzy No 2]

i was going to ask this question a while ago when i was looking @ the halo thred but thought id put it in the slowchat topic but when i got there i fogot all bout it, but i always look forward to the dash updates (mabye im just a bit sad?)

i actually enjoyed the FFXII beta but all i did was run to that major city which only the high levels can get to by hiding behind higher levels as they fought there way there and i ran past evreything and hid till sum1 good came along

[UKJAY]

Yeah I love dash updates, then I like moaning about everything I wish had been there...:D

[AugustusBot]

I wouldn't mind being hooked up with Dutch guys, but I also wouldn't mind being hooked up to random guys around the world.

lol. how has noone quoted this yet...

[UKJAY]

lol. how has noone quoted this yet...

Because he will Ban us...

[wakeboardnmoto]

lol. how has noone quoted this yet...

hahaha i was thinking the same exact thing!!!11 :P

[ErickXbox]

the next update needs an internet explorer built with the chatpad in mind - PS3 and Wii both have browsers, and for people without a computer it makes alot of sense and would move systems at the arcade's pricepoint

[Rossko_UK]

Browsers on consoles sucks IMO. I have my laptop sitting right next to me when I game, there is no need for this.

And quit promoting that site across these boards please. At least others are subtle.

[ErickXbox]

I'll keep doing what I want thanks - and I made the statement assuming you didn't have a computer - if you are without a pc the PS3 makes more sense - hence the topic of the article you so quickly shun b4 even reading -
laptop right there next to you on the couch? nerdius maximus

[Rossko_UK]

I'll keep doing what I want thanks - and I made the statement assuming you didn't have a computer - if you are without a pc the PS3 makes more sense - hence the topic of the article you so quickly shun b4 even reading -
laptop right there next to you on the couch? nerdius maximus

Without a PC, a PS3 makes more sense? How so? There aren't that many games for it yet compared to the PC, and well, console browsing sucks against using a PC. Also who doesn't have access to a PC these days?

By the way buddy, you'd be well-advised not to be so rude to me if you wanna keep posting.

[UKJAY]

I'll keep doing what I want thanks - and I made the statement assuming you didn't have a computer - if you are without a pc the PS3 makes more sense - hence the topic of the article you so quickly shun b4 even reading -
laptop right there next to you on the couch? nerdius maximus

CHILD !

[_Chris_]

I'll keep doing what I want thanks - and I made the statement assuming you didn't have a computer - if you are without a pc the PS3 makes more sense - hence the topic of the article you so quickly shun b4 even reading -
laptop right there next to you on the couch? nerdius maximus

How the fuck is that nerdy? Its more lazy. My PC is running through the same TV as my 360, so all i need to do is change channel, that nerdy? Many people class gamers in general as nerdy, you a nerd? Wanting all these features that make your 360 more than what it should be, a games console could easily be considered nerdy? You a nerd?
'Tard

[ErickXbox]

hey ross - -way to flex those online muscles

"Without a PC, a PS3 makes more sense?"
with yellow dog linux you get an office suite, then you are a bluetooth printer away from a pc that can play blu-ray movies and ps3 games, surf the internet, and print a report. I own a 360 and a PC so its not for me, but if no pc or console I would buy a PS3


My PC is running through the same TV as my 360, so all i need to do is change channel, that nerdy? yup

[Chris]

I think he flexed his editor muscles.

[UKJAY]

Can a PS3 download stuff from the internet...
Can a PS3 have more than 1 web browser...
Can a PS3 have different POP3 email accounts...
Can a PS3 allow you to talk to people on MSN or Yahoo
Can a PS3 write things to DVD or CD...

So if I didn't have a PC... I'd just have a laptop...
oh - seems I have ...

[_Chris_]

hey ross - -way to flex those online muscles

"Without a PC, a PS3 makes more sense?"
with yellow dog linux you get an office suite, then you are a bluetooth printer away from a pc that can play blu-ray movies and ps3 games, surf the internet, and print a report. I own a 360 and a PC so its not for me, but if no pc or console I would buy a PS3


My PC is running through the same TV as my 360, so all i need to do is change channel, that nerdy? yup

Lol, youre a fucking idiot, and youre gonna get banned very soon.

[UKJAY]

:D LOL

[wakeboardnmoto]

ya it would suck just based off other comaprisons: psp- absolutely terrible, my HTC 8525- handy yet bad, nintendo ds-better than psp still total crap (especially for 29.99!).
it wouldnt bother me if it was there tho, i mean who wouldnt wanna watch porn on a 65" HDTV? :P O-)

and im gonna bet this erick gets about 2 more posts in bfore hes banned

o ya and im still waitin on that mutli-user private voice chat
oya sry one more thing, has anybody heard anything more about that DirectTV blade that was rumored a while back?

[Rossko_UK]

hey ross - -way to flex those online muscles

"Without a PC, a PS3 makes more sense?"
with yellow dog linux you get an office suite, then you are a bluetooth printer away from a pc that can play blu-ray movies and ps3 games, surf the internet, and print a report. I own a 360 and a PC so its not for me, but if no pc or console I would buy a PS3


My PC is running through the same TV as my 360, so all i need to do is change channel, that nerdy? yup

I really don't know why you have such an attitude, need a hug?

But if I personally had no PC/laptop, the last thing I'd consider buying is a PS3. I'd think along the lines of getting something similar to a PC or laptop, like perhaps, just maybe, a PC or laptop. Why anyone would compare PC's functionality with a PS3's is beyond me for most of the reasons Jay points out: it just doesn't make sense.

Now come on, one more rude reply and you win a ban! Then I get to show you just how big my "online, Editorial muscles" are! Wouldn't that be great?! Seriously pal, be civil, we are all entitled to an opinion; just because I asked you not to post a link to some shitty site in every topic you post in is no reason to get all agitated. People hate it when someone new strolls in and basically advertises, so we cut it out.

Now, play nice, or no play at all, OK? Let's be friends?

[gdogg79]

Plus a Live Messenger tab for also being able to speak and send messages to those on MSN.
that would come in handy

[UKJAY]

that would come in handy

:D I wrote that long before MSN came to the 360...we have that 'tab' now...

Chat & IM, press right and there it is....

[gdogg79]

How about whenever there is a dashboard or game update there is something like a readme to tell us what is new or what bugs were fixed

[Rossko_UK]

How about whenever there is a dashboard or game update there is something like a readme to tell us what is new or what bugs were fixed

Er, there always is. A list is always published, and we always write about it.

[UKJAY]

Er, there always is. A list is always published, and we always write about it.

Im beginning to think he doesn't actually own a 360 & I know some spam will hit our shelves soon....

[wakeboardnmoto]

I know some spam will hit our shelves soon....

lol, i just hope its not for iphones, those r just a slap in the face to me everytime i see one since i cant afford to get one...free ps3 spam, bring it on (cuz i dont want one of them :P)

[UKJAY]

lol, i just hope its not for iphones, those r just a slap in the face to me everytime i see one since i cant afford to get one...free ps3 spam, bring it on (cuz i dont want one of them :P)

We're getting them 9th November over here in the UK

[wakeboardnmoto]

i got a couple of friends who have em and they are really somethin especially with the nes emu's now available. but i upgraded my old phone with the HTC 8525 this past week and i am very pleased with it

[UKJAY]

i got a couple of friends who have em and they are really somethin especially with the nes emu's now available. but i upgraded my old phone with the HTC 8525 this past week and i am very pleased with it

Im gonna get a different phone in December when my contract runs out. Wont be an Iphone, I actually want a phone that I dont have to press a horrible touchscreen, but still has web'n'walk internet, emails, - you can't buy phones with trackers in them so need to spend a bit extra on that, but hopefully one that fits into my pocket too..my T-Mobile MDAII is too bulky.

[wakeboardnmoto]

Im gonna get a different phone in December when my contract runs out. Wont be an Iphone, I actually want a phone that I dont have to press a horrible touchscreen, but still has web'n'walk internet, emails, - you can't buy phones with trackers in them so need to spend a bit extra on that, but hopefully one that fits into my pocket too..my T-Mobile MDAII is too bulky.

ya i have the same drawback about the bulk, but mine has the slide out qwerty keyboard which is quite handy, and for 100$ i couldnt complain, especially since you can run nes, snes, gba, ps1, and mame emulators right on the OS 8)

[UKJAY]

ya i have the same drawback about the bulk, but mine has the slide out qwerty keyboard which is quite handy, and for 100$ i couldnt complain, especially since you can run nes, snes, gba, ps1, and mame emulators right on the OS 8)

Yeah that sounds pretty good... should call it a phoneboy :P

[Nayse-BTC]

yes, I would prefer better features online.

[HylianHitman]

How about a web browser? Wii and PS3 got it, why can't we have it?

[GAZA1111111]

Anyone know when IPTV is coming on board?:?

[UKJAY]

Anyone know when IPTV is coming on board?:?

Not sure - theres rumors on the front page news here...but I think it'll be more next year.

[Chris]

How about a web browser? Wii and PS3 got it, why can't we have it?

Some people want it, some people get sick even seeing the word browser and console in the same sentence.

[_Chris_]

I would have no objections to a browser on the 360, i just dont see why some people are so bang on it (going on and on about wanting it) along with other completely pointless things, like printer compatibility and such, thats not to say i wouldnt use a web browser, i just dont think theres any actual need for it.

(Incase you were talking about me)

[UKJAY]

First time I saw a browser on a TV was 1999 - Sega Dreamcast, was good...

[Jamzy No 2]

i like things which i actually use so a web browser would be nice but of the things that have came out i mainly use instant messanger. most other things are a gimick

something i would like is a clan tab and a calander

the calander would update with upcoming demos, videos and release dates not to mention clan dates and ur own personal dates(not that i think theyll ever do that)

i just thought that'd be sumthing which not many people would want but ud probley end up using it alot

[nofear360]

something i would like is a clan tab and a calander
Agreed, an informative calendar would come in handy. It'd be nice if they made one that would show release dates for upcoming games, demos, conventions etc.

[Fanappy]

Yeah that would be a really cool feature to have

[HylianHitman]

I don't think they'd put conventions in tbh.

[Jamzy No 2]

yeah thats exactly whant i ment zan id be relly useful but i don't think itll ever happen
evan though if they had the release date of xbla and retail games it would be free advartisment for them.

[max2663]

they would need to bring out a better keyboard combination for a web browser to work

[Rossko_UK]

they would need to bring out a better keyboard combination for a web browser to work

Like the Messenger Kit thingy that attaches to your controller?

[wakeboardnmoto]

lol!

[Ivan Joidherpus]

or ANY usb wired/wireless keyboard.

EDIT: web browser = dumb on consoles. Isn't that why I have a laptop?

[Rossko_UK]

or ANY usb wired/wireless keyboard.

EDIT: web browser = dumb on consoles. Isn't that why I have a laptop?

Yup. Try telling people here that.

[Jamzy No 2]

im not to fused a about it but sum people can only use internet or xbox @ one time
some people don't always have accsses to thier pcs(i happen 2 hav the most intating little sister who is more msn than human now)
some people just don't have pcs(although obviously no one in this forum)
some peoile have relly slow internet speed and would assume that microsoft would have a decent intrnet browser with good speeds(like myself[i hear wiis is great but ps3s isn't {correct me if im wrong}])
some people are just lazy and cant be arsed to gop into the next room/turn 90degrees/slightly move thier hand

while im not relly desprate u can see why it would be useful for sum


EDIT:and id assume that thered be no risk of virsus and there would be no pop-ups(which i don't get anyway but u know)

[UKJAY]

again...think I've mentioned it a few times now.. I'd like just an email tab somewhere where I can check emails preferably POP3 type so I can check & reply using my USB keyboard..

[Rossko_UK]

1. im not to fused a about it but sum people can only use internet or xbox @ one time

2.some people don't always have accsses to thier pcs(i happen 2 hav the most intating little sister who is more msn than human now)

3. some people just don't have pcs(although obviously no one in this forum)

4. some peoile have relly slow internet speed and would assume that microsoft would have a decent intrnet browser with good speeds(like myself[i hear wiis is great but ps3s isn't {correct me if im wrong}])

5. some people are just lazy and cant be arsed to gop into the next room/turn 90degrees/slightly move thier hand

1. You wouldn't be able to game and surf the net at the same time, so that makes no difference.

2. Kick her off or buy a laptop.

3. If you don't have a PC, why would you have a broadband connection in the first place that is needed to hook up to Live?

4. If you have a slow internet speed, the type of browser you use will make no difference. Wii and PS3 browsers are as fast as my laptop browser since they use the same connection.

5. No-one is too lazy to move 90 degrees or slightly move their hand. That last bit was really scraping the barrel for points.

[Jamzy No 2]

u gotta relise that i don't fit into all those and 5 was an exagreation sum people have computers in other rooms and can't constanttly switch rooms

for 3. peopel may not have a pc but may hav an xbox and if they thinking bout buying a pc they may not cause xbox would have a browser

or u may be thinking of buying a pc but get a 360 instead so u can use the internet and use xbox live

1 and 4 were pretty pethetic and im not relly effected that much but it is convinent for some and while it might not affect u ross it just makes life easier for some people

for 4 that was just sumit i didn't understand and wouldn't have said if i had of understood
and for 1 i assume that ud still be able to chat and download stuff from xblm so that one is still a fair point

[Rossko_UK]

Anyone that says "Oh wow, the 360 has a browser, therefore I have no need for a PC" clearly needs to be shot because of their ignorance.

[_Chris_]

Anyone that says "Oh wow, the 360 has a browser, therefore I have no need for a PC" clearly needs to be shot because of their ignorance.

Lol. Agreed.