Xbox360 vs PS3

[knoxin]

Let there be slience on the subject of the waring factions

There has been a hands on report of comparing the 2

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp


Very good read

[Curry]

Why do I have trouble believing that site to have gotten their hands on a working PS3 while sites like IGN and Gamespot are still waiting and guessing like the rest of us?

The big sites are usually slow in picking up news and rumors, but they are first in line when Sony or Microsoft send out hardware previews

* Curry reads...

[edit]

Firstly however, the box. The stylish PlayStation 3 casing design that SCEI boss Ken Kutaragi revealed last year is, and always has been, empty - and no signs of a final, tangible casing solution appear to be in sight.

OMFG

[knoxin]

I just thought i would add it as it seemed a good read

as the maker of Mgs4 said xbox360 would run it with ease there little things in there that make me feel happy i have my 360

i have fully connected to my x-fi fatality via optical and on 15% volume and it pumps out 89Db and thx is damerging to my foundations where i live


hey Curry is the 360 capable of running DX10 ?

[Nino]

The PS3 will be a little bit more powerful but not the difference Sony tries to make you believe. Atleast, that's my prediction. It all depends on how the developers use their tools and talents

[Curry]

Seems the article is authentic based on one of the first devkits shipped, more than enough details there to make it plausible. Scary quotes are abundant though:

Perhaps the biggest bombshell we've learned in the world of PS3 development right now is that many (if not most) games are simply running in 720p - not the ambitious, bleeding edge 1080p "Full HD" standard that Sony had us so excited about. And certainly, not two of them stuck together for a ludicrous 32:9 double-1080p.

Everyone knows that the Killzone trailer was rendered to reflect what the developer thought they might be able to achieve on PS3 architecture, but some of Sony's most talented studios will be questioning the ambition they showed nine months ago. In hindsight, there was some stuff that looked decidedly more like what we've been playing now - UbiSoft's Killing Day seeming like it was a good, honest estimate. Rewatch that below, and consider this is comparable to the technical visual quality of what we've played, and you'll likely conclude that this is, for now at least, really same-generation stuff next to Xbox 360.

Sony's showings of PS3 to date have been seriously sexy. But the reality, while still impressive, is nowhere near the leap beyond Xbox 360 Sony wants you to believe, and it seems many projects are still at an early enough stage for things to start getting a little worrying.

The hands-on evidence is beginning to mount up. We're talking about a machine barely superior to Xbox 360 - not by any significant margin. It's certainly obvious this machine is not "twice" as powerful as 360, let alone a generational leap ahead.

That's just scary. Considering their radio silence, I had assumed they were behind schedule and simply not capable of showing really impressive stuff yet, but if this is all true they have a major problem on their hands.

And that's bad, because good competition makes the Xbox better as well, and keeps Microsoft on their toes.

[Curry]

Originally Posted by knoxin

hey Curry is the 360 capable of running DX10 ?

X360 doesn't run DirectX. It has a custom architecture with custom PowerPC CPU and custom GPU, and runs on a kernel with DirectX-derived software called XNA.

So no, it cannot run DX10 any more than it can run DX7 simply because DirectX is for different platforms

[Nino]

Yeah I was thinking about buying the PS3 (would be my first Sony console) but I'm not so sure anymore.

[knoxin]

Originally Posted by Curry

X360 doesn't run DirectX. It has a custom architecture with custom PowerPC CPU and custom GPU, and runs on a kernel with DirectX-derived software called XNA.

So no, it cannot run DX10 any more than it can run DX7 simply because DirectX is for different platforms

Cheers i was wondering about that as crytek said the was making a new game using the crytek 2 engine that is only dx10

[Curry]

DirectX and XNA are developed in tandem, so they are very comparable and as such easy to port, but the versions aren't easily compared.

In contrast, id Software has always worked with OpenGL which is a completely different architecture, and that is my personal explanation why Quake 4 sucks so badly on 360.

[Neejoh]

Ofcourse the PS3 will kick-ass! I'm not even gonna doubt that, but hate all those rumors going on right now. PS3 this, PS3 that... What's the use of all those unconfirmed rumors?

I've seen some tech presentations that were kinda lame. A lot of pre-rendered cut-scenes, which I think is one hell of a stupid markething trick.

The Unreal 3 engine showoff looked PRETTY nice though, and so did that Snake techdemo!

I'll just wait and see what happens

[knoxin]

OMFG battery powerd PS3 Fanboy

the ps3 and 360 are = in there own ways one does one thing better and so does the other.

i will wait but i think ps3 could be dead sony have tried to add to much i was waiting for them to say it could boil hot water

[Nino]

A dead Sony results in a(nother) monopoly for Microsoft. And monopolies are not good for the quality of games (see: EA).

[knoxin]

Originally Posted by Nino

A dead Sony results in a(nother) monopoly for Microsoft. And monopolies are not good for the quality of games (see: EA).

I know what your saying don't get me wrong but sony is trying to do a monopoly on Hd dvd aka blue ray but it will be nice to see sony sweat AS this time they have to really fight.

But just go back to when the Ps2 was coming out Omg Was't the emotion engine ment to render life like graphics Blah it could only just do dvd's lol

[Curry]

Well we'll have to see what Sony comes up with, and we might hear within a week. But if this hands-on preview is authentic and the devkit is anywhere near final hardware they have a problem, and if the devkit is nowhere near final hardware they have an even bigger problem because no way they'll release a console within half a year then.

[Aift]

Sorry to ask this guys, but i am too lazy to read that article...Is it saying as of now 360 is better or worse?

[Nino]

Originally Posted by Aift

Sorry to ask this guys, but i am too lazy to read that article...Is it saying as of now 360 is better or worse?

PS3 is supposed to be slightly better but not as much as Sony wants you to believe

[Aift]

What department, is SONY supossedly blowing Xbox360 away in? I mean they are doing to much in to little time...How can they put together a online service better then Xbox LIVE in half a year?

[HellFire]

Originally Posted by Aift

What department, is SONY supossedly blowing Xbox360 away in? I mean they are doing to much in to little time...How can they put together a online service better then Xbox LIVE in half a year?

They can't.

[Nino]

@Aift: Oh sorry I wasnt clear, I was talking about graphics/power. I find it really hard to believe that they're gonna top Xbox Live. The Xbox Live we have now wasnt built half a year either, it evolved from the through 2 generations of consoles.

[Curry]

Originally Posted by Aift

What department, is SONY supossedly blowing Xbox360 away in? I mean they are doing to much in to little time...How can they put together a online service better then Xbox LIVE in half a year?

Well they didn't start the day they started that rumor ofcourse, they probably started when they saw Xbox Live was a success (so half 2003 is my guess). However, Sony aren't software guys, and Sony doesn't have Microsoft's worldwide 24/7 infrastructure (think Hotmail, think MSN), Sony doesn't have the widespread acceptance that is Xbox Live right now. I think Sony can consider themselves lucky if their first effort matches Microsoft's first effort, being 10% online in total console lifespan.

[etalien]

Originally Posted by Nino

@Aift: Oh sorry I wasnt clear, I was talking about graphics/power. I find it really hard to believe that they're gonna top Xbox Live. The Xbox Live we have now wasnt built half a year either, it evolved from the through 2 generations of consoles.

The fact that the PS3 will have better graphics (although, maybe not really visible to most people) can be explained pretty simple: Their console will hit the shelves much later than the X360 (Maybe even a year)! Thats how it goes with technology, developement goes fast

[Aift]

Thanks guys for clearing that up to me...I think both systems are better at doing different things. And i think SONY's attempt at Xbox Live will fail. I mean i am not a fanboy or anything but i think Xbox360 has more over the PS3 as of now..

Oh and i am looking to interview a "fanboy" for my site. I am doing a reprt called "Stop the Wars!". And i will publish the interview, at the launch of my website...You dont really have to be a fanboy just pretend a little bit so if you want to help me out let me know.

[Rival24]

Originally Posted by etalien

The fact that the PS3 will have better graphics (although, maybe not really visible to most people) can be explained pretty simple: Their console will hit the shelves much later than the X360 (Maybe even a year)! Thats how it goes with technology, developement goes fast

That's right, but when the PS3 comes out, the Xbox360 programmers had more chance to experiment with the console and the graphics will probably match the ps3's graphics or they may even be better. Maybe in the future we'll see a slight difference between Xbox360 and PS3 games, but my guess is it won't make a big difference especially for cross platform games.

[Rival24]

Originally Posted by Aift

Thanks guys for clearing that up to me...I think both systems are better at doing different things. And i think SONY's attempt at Xbox Live will fail. I mean i am not a fanboy or anything but i think Xbox360 has more over the PS3 as of now..

Don't forget that the PS3 will have some other functionallity that the Xbox360 doesn't have. It's supposed to record tv and that sort of stuff

Oh and i am looking to interview a "fanboy" for my site. I am doing a reprt called "Stop the Wars!". And i will publish the interview, at the launch of my website...You dont really have to be a fanboy just pretend a little bit so if you want to help me out let me know.

Cool, just drop us a link when it's done at newssubmit@xboxic.com if you would be so kind

[Nino]

Originally Posted by Rival24

Don't forget that the PS3 will have some other functionallity that the Xbox360 doesn't have. It's supposed to record tv and that sort of stuff

Not the things I look for in a console...