I played a PS3 today

[acromyth]

Today I was at Toy R'Us and saw a PS3 dealio set up. Watched a dude play DMC for a bit then I hoped on. I played the demo of DMC4 and it sucked. The 1st wave of 360 games look way better. There are jaggies out the ass on every demo I played. It needed MAJOR AA. I played GTHD too, and it looked pretty good, but the rowds were lame, and it had jaggies considerablly too. It reminded me a lot of PS2 and how unsmooth it always looked. GTHD's crowds were pretty much frozen, and made creppy, robot movements. There were a lot of model repeats as well. The backgrounds look better in screenshots, its like they just photoshoped a piture back there, and it looks bad (really out of place). The only thing I like about the PS3 was the menu, yet it didn't work well at all during games. When logged out of game however, it ran really smooth and was easy to use despite being in Japanese.

The controller: Omg. Ommfg. I did not think they could have made the DualShock worse (it wasn't great at all when compared to the Controller S, and not shit to the 360 pad or even Gamecube controller). The Sixaxis feels cheap, really cheap. I thought about how I could have easily smashed it inmy hands. It has a better grip than the DualShock, but I immediately didn't like the way it felt, and after over an hour of using it I still thought of how crappy it was. The worst part is the L2 and R2 though. Worst. Triggers. Ever. Wow. Really, really bad. Like, super-duper-uber-bad. Not any ounce of good in them at all. Man. PS3 itself isn't very sexy close up. Seems pretty big, like, obese. Xbox 1 style. Too bad the Wii demo station wasn't up yet. I did get some good playtime on lost planet though, so my trip to Toys R'Us wasn't a COMPLETE let down.

[Nino]

DMC4 UGLY!? WHAT?! Surely you're not talking about this game?

[Fanappy]

All your base

I think he's a hater
I don't really want any PS3 games atm but who knows the future DMC4 looks pretty sweet

[acromyth]

I'm just giving my honest opionion. I WANT to like the PS3, you know what I mean? I just can't justify it.

Originally Posted by Nino

DMC4 UGLY!? WHAT?! Surely you're not talking about this game?

Yes. That game. I played it twice, and I'm convinced all screenshots were doctored because there were so many jaggies. Plus, looked like an Xbox game. Terrible water. Flat. Completely flat with no movement. The ocean is apparently a very big canvas of grey. Plus when you look at the sun over the ocean, the point were the water and sky meet made me sick. So, so much AA needed in that game. GTHD really did look good, but in a strange way. Those weird backrounds (pictures glued onto worse graphics) and robot people. Cars handled realistically however.

I'm not joking at all, the controller is really not good. I'm super cereal. Only thing that was improved is the actually material maybe, I could tell it would stay in your hands more firmly, though I've never really dropped a dualshock. It didn't have that smoothy, shinyness like the dualshock. For example. Take the material from the PS2 (actual console) and put it on the Sixaxis. They basically switch the controller material and console material from last gerneration the other way around this time.

[Rival24]

The game's not gone gold so it wouldn't worry about it too much.

[acromyth]

I'm not an expert, but it makes me worry about the graphics card. ALL the demos had bad jaggies, some worse than others (DMC was the worst by far). Are developers not utilizing any AA? Whats the deal.

I hope they remake the controller, those damn triggers.... fuck... because I'm not so much worried about the games (learning curve) as I am the actual controller.

+'s: Major quietness
nice menus, they are fast and simple
i felt up the ps3 a bit, and i couldnt feel too much heat, although I couldnt make it all the way to where the power was plgged in

-'s: for sure the controller
too many jaggies
can't get the menu to work well in-game
spiderman font is A LOT more apparent when actually looking a PS3 in the face

[Curry]

Originally Posted by Nino

DMC4 UGLY!? WHAT?! Surely you're not talking about this game?

To be honest that screenshot does look "postprocessed" to me. There's a smoothing going on there that smells more like Photoshop than Pixel Shaders. Apart from that it'd even look fine with jaggies I think.

On the GPU itself, it's a wellknown public secret that it's less powerful than the 360's. The PS3's potential superiority is all in the Cell if it ever gets unleashed properly. As a programmer I'm skeptical of that though.

[Nino]

Curry; check the gameplay footage on Playsyde, the off-screen stuff from TGS. It looks even better in motion I think.

 edit:

Exhibit A (streaming gameplay demonstration at TGS): http://playsyde.com/leech_3053_en.html
Exhibit B (streaming showfloor footage from TGS): http://playsyde.com/stream_3047_en.html
Exhibit C (streaming showfloor footage from TGS part 2): http://playsyde.com/stream_3048_en.html

I don't see any jaggies, I see one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen running in solid buttersmooth 60FPS.

[Rival24]

Of course you don't see any jaggies on crappy cam vids

[Chris]

Yay Nino, there's one reason to spend $600. Where's my credit card?!?!

[Nino]

Originally Posted by Rival24

Of course you don't see any jaggies on crappy cam vids

Fix your crappy connection so you can see the link, the footage in those links looks heavily anti aliased to me.

[Rival24]

I saw the vids, big fat blur.

[Nino]

I think you saw different ones, the ones from the show floor aren't too blurry. You can read fscking interface . You're on crack Rival, thanks for proving it again.

Edit: With 'aren't too blurry' I mean that they're clear enough to see whether or not DMC4 has aliasing issues.

[Rival24]

Originally Posted by Nino

I think you saw different ones, the ones from the show floor aren't too blurry. You can read fscking interface . You're on crack Rival, thanks for proving it again.

Edit: With 'aren't too blurry' I mean that they're clear enough to see whether or not DMC4 has aliasing issues.

You can't tell. Go hug your blurry SDTV now noob. Those preview builds almost always have AA turned off.

[trj156]

Originally Posted by Rival24

You can't tell. Go hug your blurry SDTV now noob. Those preview builds almost always have AA turned off.

HAHA.
i remember the first demo of TDU was like that.

[acromyth]

Honestly, AA aside, it's not really impressive. Decent graphics, nothing special. Some things look nice, other don't at all. Even in 720p.

[Chris]

I'm tired of Sony's bullshit.

You may know Sony most readily as the company that recently recalled something on the order of every laptop battery ever made because of a small glitch (they explode). Then there was the "rootkit" debacle, where Sony secretly installed hidden bullshit on your computer. One of Sony BMG's presidents handled the situation with the delicacy of a gang rape with this quote: "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" Good point, shit-head! And before that, Sony was known for its shitty optical drives in their PS2s, resulting in a class action lawsuit. The word "shitty" in the previous sentence is a bit misleading, since I also use the word to describe Renée Zellweger's life, and having to void your warranty by adjusting a cog to fix a misaligned laser inside your PS2 is slightly shittier.

Not content with the reaming they give consumers with their shoddy products and condescending attitude, Sony determined that it didn't have enough bad press, so they decided to wield their giant gnarled cock of corporate greed again, this time training it on a small-time import shop called "Lik Sang." Lik Sang was a haven for nerds who wanted to import games and systems from other countries. It turns out that Lik Sang broke some major laws that not only earned them the scorn of Sony, but pissed Sony off to the point where they sued Lik Sang into oblivion. So what was this grave infraction committed against Sony that not only threatened the very foundation of this giant multi-national corporation, but warranted destroying the lives and careers of a group of dorks running a gaming website? Simple: they committed the mortal sin of selling Japanese PSPs to European gamers. Oh no! Not that!

When I read the law suit, I did a double take to make sure I read it correctly. Sony is suing to prevent people from selling PSPs? Great move, morons! Because if there's anything Sony needs right now, it's fewer people buying PSPs. In fact, PSP sales are part of the reason Sony expects to lose $1.7 billion dollars in their gaming division by March. That means that I and anyone else who makes any money at all between now and March (or at least manages not to lose more than $1,699,999,999.99) will officially make more money than Sony's gaming division. I rule.

This isn't the first time Sony bullied a gaming website for selling PSP imports. In June of 2005, Sony sued a website called ElectricBirdLand (Sony literally hired men in dark sunglasses to deliver the papers to the defendant, because Sony is insecure about the size of its penis), stating that the sale of Japanese PSPs to the UK could hurt their ability to exploit the "excitement and anticipation of the market." Hey Sony, you know what else could help you exploit the excitement and anticipation of the market? The PSP not sucking:



Sony's strategy towards portable gaming seems to be to take the same shitty first generation Playstation games that weren't great to begin with, and make them portable so now we can take an example of Sony's utter-inability-to-stop-sucking with us everywhere we go. Nobody wants to buy movies in your stupid proprietary format, assholes!

So why does a company that relies on consumer satisfaction and brand recognition treat its fans with such contempt? Because...

Sony hates you.

Sony would love nothing more than to see you and your family suffer. Sony is like that psycho-ex who you had a few good times with, but was too clingy and the sex got boring. Now it's over and Sony is still stewing about it by leaving you voice mail asking for another chance and promising it "can change."

Tough shit Sony. We've moved on. We're dating your younger, hotter sister, Wii. Even your fuglier step-sister, Xbox 360, looks hotter than you do. At least she's been around the block a few times and knows how to turn tricks. You've got nothing, and it's going to stay that way until you stop being a crabby old cunt.

414,770 people are tired of Sony's bullshit.

LINKAGE!!!!!

[Xploited13]

Having played at PS3 kiosks many times in the past 2 weeks, I never once felt that the controller was as "cheap" as you claim. The controller itself is small in my hands, just as the 360's (also the reason why I used the "Duke" back on the big black box) but saying you could smash it in your hands may be a bit of an exaggeration. While I did not get a chance to try DMC4 or even watch a video of it on the hardware, I did play both NHL 2K7 and Marvel: UA. The two games looked about equal in comparison to their 360 counterparts (Marvel seemed to have more lighting effects on the PS3 but its framerate had some issues and didnt appear to be as sharp) The second complaint I could probably contribute to the LCD they had used - which is inferior to my home entertainment system that I had played the games on.

[Chris]

I must admit that Motorstorm looked fucking sweet while I watched a kid play at target.

[Cage]

The new york times doesn't really like the PS3

An article in the New York times slams Sony's PlayStation 3 console and claims that the product is unrefined and not ready for public release, all this after having tried the console for over 30 hours and having played 13 games on it.

The article in the New York times suggests that Sony rushed the console to market in an attempt to get some holiday action but may be selling the consumer short in order to do so. The story begins by stating that the PS3 ...delivers gorgeous graphics. Only to go on and add that ...they are not discernibly prettier than the Xbox 360’s.

Seth Schiesel, the New York times editor behind the story, then moves on to a straight-forward comparison of the XBox 360 and the PS3 and claims that the X360 is user friendly and features an intuitive UI while the PS3 lacks refinement and some basic gear including the high definition cabling required to connect the console to a TV that supports the technology. The comparison continues to find fault with Sony's console and the way its controllers sync and even mentions the inability of the PS3 to allow players to listen to their own music while playing games.

The criticism of the console goes on to mention the Sony online experience which is also presented as unrefined, astonishingly, you can’t download in the background while you go do something that’s more fun (like play a game). The story however, does praise the online experience in, the quite excellent, Resistance: Fall of Man.

The criticism of Sony's console goes on and on and the gist of the story seems to be that the shortage of consoles may actually help Sony as it needs more time to refine its UI and the overall PS3 user experience. A lot of horsepower but no seats may be the expression that best describes Sony's next-generation offering.

[acromyth]

Originally Posted by Xploited13

Having played at PS3 kiosks many times in the past 2 weeks, I never once felt that the controller was as "cheap" as you claim. The controller itself is small in my hands, just as the 360's (also the reason why I used the "Duke" back on the big black box) but saying you could smash it in your hands may be a bit of an exaggeration. While I did not get a chance to try DMC4 or even watch a video of it on the hardware, I did play both NHL 2K7 and Marvel: UA. The two games looked about equal in comparison to their 360 counterparts (Marvel seemed to have more lighting effects on the PS3 but its framerate had some issues and didnt appear to be as sharp) The second complaint I could probably contribute to the LCD they had used - which is inferior to my home entertainment system that I had played the games on.

Well thats great. Good thing we can all have our opinion, and my opinion is that they made a shitty controller even shittier, and I will laugh at anyone who buys that giant peice of shit called the PS3.

Oh and DMC4 looks like a mutilated and charred asshole. It's terrible.

[Chris]

I finally played with the PS3, and in fact the triggers feel like shit. Motorstorm looked pretty damn great, but those damn triggers (L2, R2) feel pretty retarded. They feel like they've got rubber springs or something.

[Nino]

Originally Posted by acromyth

I will laugh at anyone who buys that giant peice of shit called the PS3.

Oh and DMC4 looks like a mutilated and charred asshole. It's terrible.

Ah come on, no need for that...

[The_Glovner]

Ha ha ha ha.

This all made me laugh. Look at the way everyone jumps on acromyth for voicing an opinion that doesn't worship the shiny black grill.

Good man, stick to your opinion and convictions. If you played it and thats how you feel then thanks for letting me know, anyway I still ain't even going to consider one until it drops in price anyway so at least they have time to actually get things working.

On another point though any news yet on how the whole online thing is performing?

[Fanappy]

like a sports car with no seats was the last comment i heard